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#598719 - 06/19/12 07:16 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN vs Harry Potter [Re: Ted Kilvington]
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Derivative works aren't innovative, but you can't know yet if Before Watchmen will be?

Okay.
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#598720 - 06/19/12 11:11 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN vs Harry Potter [Re: Ceci n'est pas une chaussette]
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Although it is derivative and not innovative in concept, it may yet be innovative in narrative, theme, approach, complexity, etc., just like the original Watchmen. It likely will not be, and from what I have seen thus far will merely be better-than-average superhero comics. Which I enjoy and you mock. But thank you for conceding that the concept of Before Watchmen is no more derivative than Alan Moore's usual works.
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#598721 - 06/20/12 08:47 AM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN vs Harry Potter [Re: Ted Kilvington]
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I don't actually recall saying that. In fact, I believe I said the exact opposite. Nor do I recall saying I don't like superhero comics. But... y'know. I can excuse myself if you'd like to just supply both sides of the conversation. I bet it's fun. Easier, too!
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#598737 - 06/20/12 12:16 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN vs Harry Potter [Re: Ceci n'est pas une chaussette]
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In fairness to Alan Moore: Some critics say they're tired of hearing him complain about BEFORE WATCHMEN.

But Moore isn't issuing press releases or holding news conferences. Folks are calling him on the telephone for interviews and asking him his views. He's answering. They're publishing his answers.

What would we have Moore do, stop answering the phone or speaking out loud until DC Comics, Dan DiDio, Jim Lee, Darwyn Cooke and the rest have finished devouring the meat off WATCHMEN's bones?

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#598759 - 06/20/12 03:52 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN vs Harry Potter [Re: Lawson]
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Exactly, he's just giving his honest opinion when asked in interviews, that doesn't necessarily mean the guy is pounding his pillow every night and tossing darts at a DC logo all day. Anyone who criticizes his "angry outbursts" at DC is making some seriously unfair assumptions.

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#598786 - 06/20/12 07:23 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN vs Harry Potter [Re: Joe Lee]
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Troll Joe got *FLUSHED*!
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#598814 - 06/21/12 12:37 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN vs Harry Potter [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Actually the thread was flushed yesterday. Shortly after your tantrum. To be honest I thought you got banned.

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#598846 - 06/21/12 03:36 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN vs Harry Potter [Re: Joe Lee]
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Awwww, did daddy's little girl take the bad Internet man's refutal of her standard "I bet you're not so tough off the Internet" bullshit as a threat or something?
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#598848 - 06/21/12 03:44 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN vs Harry Potter [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Seriously. This is what you spend your time doing?

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#598850 - 06/21/12 03:54 PM Re: BEFORE WATCHMEN vs Harry Potter [Re: Joe Lee]
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I'm also simultaneously playing Diablo, reading my comics box that showed up yesterday, listening to Frank Zappa, loading Backtrack Linux on a netbook and writing an essay on business management communication.
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