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#599115 - 07/03/12 01:46 PM John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse!
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JB has ordered SHIELDS UP! at the John Byrne Forum.

If this was intended to spare himself the mockery and derision of the outside world, it may have come 10 years too late.

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#599116 - 07/03/12 01:50 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Lawson]
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#599117 - 07/03/12 01:58 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Ceci n'est pas une chaussette]
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I've got friends who are members of the JBF strictly to act as moles -- to amuse themselves with his endless, nonsensical rants and to occasionally poke at the bear. Hopefully, they'll let me know what Byrne is doing now that the door's finally closed. The mind boggles.

...

Actually, now that I think about it, I have to wonder how many of Byrne's dwindling pack of followers are there sincerely and how many are there for the chuckles.

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#599119 - 07/03/12 03:01 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Lawson]
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Remind me again, who's supposed to be the bigger jerk here? The guy who sticks to his own little corner of the intertubes and spouts off his nonsense or the guy who's not content to just let the first guy stew in his own juices?

Mike

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#599120 - 07/03/12 03:07 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: MBunge]
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The former.

The latter is A HERO!

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#599122 - 07/03/12 04:07 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Lawson]
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I think Byrne has a right to privacy. But to have a public forum and want privacy there isn't really the place to expect to exercise that right.

There are Lawsons all around. Be Aware. Loose Lips Sink Ships.

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#599123 - 07/03/12 04:15 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: MBunge]
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Originally Posted By: MBunge
Remind me again, who's supposed to be the bigger jerk here?


I don't see why we just can't all be jerks.

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#599124 - 07/03/12 04:18 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Mr. Socko]
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Some are born Jerks, others must become Jerks.

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#599127 - 07/03/12 04:27 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Alexander Ness]
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Originally Posted By: Alexander Ness
Some are born Jerks, others must become Jerks.


Now it can be told: Bitten by a radioactive jerk, young Lawson gained the proportionate powers of a jerk and now protects the world as ... JERK MAN!!!

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#599128 - 07/03/12 04:30 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Alexander Ness]
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Originally Posted By: Alexander Ness
I think Byrne has a right to privacy. But to have a public forum and want privacy there isn't really the place to expect to exercise that right.


'Twas interesting.

For all these years, Byrne complained about people mocking his public comments because he thought he was getting an unfair rap (what he dismissed as "bad Byrne stories"). He doesn't think he's the jerk everyone else does.

But -- to his credit, I suppose -- I never noticed him whine about people quoting him from his Web site. He seemed to understand that comments he posted about whatever -- Steve Irwin, other comics pros, Latinas with blonde hair -- was going to be circulated around the Interwub.

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#599134 - 07/03/12 05:42 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Mr. Socko]
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Originally Posted By: Mr. Socko
I don't see why we just can't all be jerks.

You're no Rodney King.
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#599146 - 07/04/12 05:31 AM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Lawson]
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Originally Posted By: Lawson
Originally Posted By: Alexander Ness
I think Byrne has a right to privacy. But to have a public forum and want privacy there isn't really the place to expect to exercise that right.


'Twas interesting.

For all these years, Byrne complained about people mocking his public comments because he thought he was getting an unfair rap (what he dismissed as "bad Byrne stories"). He doesn't think he's the jerk everyone else does.

But -- to his credit, I suppose -- I never noticed him whine about people quoting him from his Web site. He seemed to understand that comments he posted about whatever -- Steve Irwin, other comics pros, Latinas with blonde hair -- was going to be circulated around the Interwub.


Oh belive me he hates people copying quotes from the web site, he has many times mentioned that the copywrite notice on the website means that people should not do it

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#599155 - 07/04/12 12:19 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Mike Keane]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Keane

Oh belive me he hates people copying quotes from the web site, he has many times mentioned that the copywrite notice on the website means that people should not do it


Of course, fair use doctrine trumps that copyright notice, as long as the quotes are limited.

But now that Byrne has made the forum private, he would be perfectly within his rights to kick out any of his forum members who quote from the JBF elsewhere. So I'm hesitant to do so myself, since I joined last week. I would still be willing to provide quotes if there were a compelling reason to do so, but I'm not going to engage in a WikiLeaks-style mass dump of JBF material either.

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#599160 - 07/04/12 01:43 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Peter Urkowitz]
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Ask him if his current publisher can arrange a project where byrne and neal adams can team up and do something. Something where one inks the other's pencils and vice versa.
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#599170 - 07/04/12 05:13 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Budman]
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I must apologize to Neal Adams, as he has finally completed his Batman maxiseries. I didn't read it, heard that it sucked pretty badly, but he did complete it. So my apologies for doubting his sticktoitiveness. Now, he's moving onto an X-Men limited series. Again, I won't be buying it, though.
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#599174 - 07/04/12 06:21 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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He finished it but not in a timely manner. Which would annoy jb to the point that he may quit the project.
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#599227 - 07/05/12 02:49 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Budman]
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I logged out of my account & I'm still able to access the site. Are there particular areas that are inaccessible?

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#599228 - 07/05/12 02:56 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.]
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I'm no tech export, lord knows, but I think the cookies embedded in your computer give you access to the JBF whether you're logged in or not, Paul. The Forum "knows" that it's you. You may not be able to post, though.

For anyone not registered and without the cookies, you get a blank page except for a line about needing to register for access.

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#599229 - 07/05/12 03:10 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Lawson]
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#599230 - 07/05/12 03:54 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Alexander Ness]
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It's back!

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#599236 - 07/05/12 07:44 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Lawson]
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Hmmmm. Another detractive theory shot to pieces?

Oh, and I have quoted JB quite often here & other places (do your own homework) & have yet to have my hand slapped in any way, shape or form. Perhaps it's because I don't do so with negative intentions? Nah, nothing as simple at that!

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#599237 - 07/05/12 07:59 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.]
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That theory people including myself posted here and elsewhere on this board is just that--an educated guess based on current events over at the byrne board. Hence, therefore and in conclusion, we have nothing to apologize for or feel guilty of.


Now, carry on and cross your fingers that they make the movies,star trek star wars and tv section viewable as well.
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#599238 - 07/05/12 08:00 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Budman]
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Screw the music section
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#599239 - 07/05/12 08:43 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Budman]
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Originally Posted By: Budman
That theory people including myself posted here and elsewhere on this board is just that--an educated guess based on current events over at the byrne board. Hence, therefore and in conclusion, we have nothing to apologize for or feel guilty of.


Now, carry on and cross your fingers that they make the movies,star trek star wars and tv section viewable as well.



Well I for one will continue not to post on the Byrne board in protest of your not apologizing!

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#599240 - 07/05/12 08:48 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Alexander Ness]
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In my best Mr. Burns voice from the Simpson's:

"Eeeexcellent!"
(And that includes the maniacle twiddling of the fingers when I say it.)
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#599241 - 07/05/12 08:52 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Budman]
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pssst I am drinking beer. Beer am good.

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#599244 - 07/05/12 10:00 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Alexander Ness]
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Yes. Beer am good. Keep going...
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#599247 - 07/05/12 10:38 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.]
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Originally Posted By: Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.
Hmmmm. Another detractive theory shot to pieces?


It appears so! My apologies to Mr. Byrne for doubting his courage and openness to the world. My thanks to him, also, for relieving me of my small dilemma of whether or not to quote from there, even with negative intentions!

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#599274 - 07/07/12 02:00 AM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Peter Urkowitz]
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Post that over at the JBF! crazy

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#599277 - 07/07/12 09:10 AM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.]
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Originally Posted By: Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.
Post that over at the JBF! crazy


I think that would be unnecessarily provocative. I'm not looking to start any fights over there.

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#599279 - 07/07/12 09:32 AM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Peter Urkowitz]
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Why on earth would he see that statement as "unnecessarily provocative?" whistle

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#599303 - 07/08/12 11:27 AM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.]
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I don't know how HE would see it, I can only use my own judgment as to what is the right thing to do. In order to apologize at the JBF, I would first have to make them aware of my initial offense over here. That would be a distraction that they never asked for and don't need.

I know that some members of the JBF are aware of Comicon, and recently we have seen Byrne himself commenting on references to himself that he has seen around the web. So I'm not hiding anything by posting criticisms here but not there. I'm just not rubbing it in their faces.

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#601706 - 01/02/13 01:24 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Peter Urkowitz]
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This has gotta be the best page on the internet:

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34869&PN=1&TPN=50

The words, "ha ha, whoops!" don't seem to be in Byrne's vocabulary.
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#601721 - 01/04/13 10:03 AM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Ceci n'est pas une chaussette]
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That's a real gem, that is.
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#601722 - 01/04/13 11:37 AM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Charles Reece]
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Some smart-ass has started a Twitter feed of dumb things Byrne has said over the years.

Recent samples:

My consumption of alcohol comes down to about 6 drinks a year, four of which are sissy-drinks that are more fruit juice than booze.

Bishop stands in my mind as the official Beginning of the End at Marvel. The point, one might say, at which it became Mar***

For a few years John used asterisks when spelling Marvel because he felt they no longer existed as he knew them.

May I just add a small thought, discretely, at this point? FANS AND RETAILERS WHO ACCEPT CONSTANTLY LATE BOOKS ARE STUPID F***ING MORONS WHO ARE HELPING TO DESTROY WHAT'S LEFT OF THIS INDUSTRY. Thank you.

At various parties I am always introduced as "the comicbook artist" or, more often, "the famous comicbook artist", which usually elicits from whomever I am being introduced to some comment about something "funny" that happened to them, that I can use in one of my comicbooks.

When I got on UNCANNY X-MEN the first thing I wanted to do was a Sentinels story. Chris kept putting me off. Finally I asked him why he was so against using the Sentinels. "Because the Sentinels are lame," he said. "No they're not," I said. "You write them lame!"

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#601723 - 01/04/13 02:49 PM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: Lawson]
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By Twitter standards, most of those comments are Mensa-worthy.

Mike

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#601731 - 01/05/13 10:41 AM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: MBunge]
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Seems like ages since we had some good ol' John Byrne craziness. Hopefully, 2013 will be a return to form for the great man.

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#601742 - 01/08/13 11:29 AM Re: John Byrne doesn't have to take your abuse! [Re: shjonescrk]
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Some of those statements are not that dumb...

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