This is all sorts of fucked up...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/pol...tml?_r=2&hp

It's a horror, all right. Twelve dead so far and scores more wounded, including children.

Anyplace a crowd of Americans gathers -- movie theaters, schools, shopping malls, outdoors celebrations, sporting events -- it seems we face an increased likelihood of some lunatic with a gun opening fire. They're looking for the maximum possible body count.

How soon before some politician with pockets full of NRA money, warns liberals to not "exploit" this incident.

It's almost irrelevant, Joe.

We stopped having the gun control argument several massacres ago. The NRA won. It's not even contested in Washington or the state capitals anymore. Now we just shudder and bury the victims.

Yeah i know, so many things are already irrelevant, they find end runs around pretty much anything

gun laws, abortion rites, campaign finance reform, poll taxes

they find a way to do what they want

Let me guess: invasion of customers' privacy as they enter theaters, which just happens to let the theaters see if you're bringing in outside food and drink.

Charging $5.00 for a bottle of water that is going for $1 at a vending machine twenty feet away in the mall is just asking for people to lie to the idiot in the vest, tearing tickets.

I'm kind of pro-gun (I don't want only the military and police to have them, for sure), but it is interesting that groups like NRA don't find it particularly relevant the amount of security/invasion procedures that can occur in order to allow their favorite freedom to exist.

My favorite sign/t-shirt from the last election read, "Next time I come armed." I saw it more than a few times on the news. I'm sure the camera guys seek out the wackos.

But the idea that the slogan conveyed, I suppose the implication being the next election results better be what this guy wants or he'll bring his gun?

Does he honestly think he's the only guy that knows where the gun stores are? Or that the the people on the extreme right have the only god given guns on earth and they have a right to shoot people if the election doesn't suit him?