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#602163 - 06/05/13 09:41 AM Re: The books I'm reading thread... [Re: Allen Montgomery]
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Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
The two major impressions that I had while reading it were that 1)Brown derives a great deal of personal satisfaction from being perceived as an emotionless robot; and 2)he's very likely not as articulate in real-life discussion as he depicts himself to be.


In my experience, comics attracts a lot of that sort. I honestly dunno why.


Originally Posted By: Allen Montgomery
And apparently, Brown is also now an aspiring politician, having put his name on two ballots for Parliament, but not winning either race. He is affiliated with the Canadian Libertarian Party (which has no problem with prostitution, but opposes as part of their platform all forms of government subsidies), despite having at least partially funded the creation of this book with a $16,000 grant from the Canadian Council for the Arts. Perhaps hypocrisy contributed to his ugliness.


Interesting point.

At the risk of generalizing, many Libertarians seem to like the clean simplicity of their philosophy: freedom good, rules bad. But as with any simple philosophy, it's not hard to poke holes in it when it's applied to real life. I've known Libertarian politicians who pocketed government subsidies, from Medicare payments as physicians to U.S.D.A. payouts as farmers. They shrug and insist that everyone else gets the money, so they may as well, too, never acknowledging the hypocrisy.

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#602170 - 06/07/13 02:06 PM Re: The books I'm reading thread... [Re: Lawson]
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My local library has Chester Brown's PAYING FOR IT, so I borrowed it at lunchtime. I hope to read it over the weekend and report back here.

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#602174 - 06/11/13 02:21 PM Re: The books I'm reading thread... [Re: Lawson]
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PAYING FOR IT: A COMIC STRIP MEMOIR ABOUT BEING A JOHN

Story and art by Chester Brown
Published by Drawn & Quarterly

Chester Brown is a creepy-looking guy with limited social skills and an obsession with comic books. Nearing his 40th birthday in the 1990s, Brown had no romantic prospects and realized that a future of solitude awaited him.

So he started buying sex from whores on 30-minute installments.

In this stark autobiography, Brown (an indie comix creator in Toronto) fully shares the details of his adventures in paying for sex. It's entertaining, it's informative and it's more than a little sad.

Brown doesn't see it that way. He insists that he's finally been freed from all those societal conventions, blah blah blah, the usual bullshit, he's never been happier, though by everyone's account, including his own, he's pretty much an emotionless drone.

Telling his story in pictures wasn't enough, though. Brown fills the back chunk of his book with a dense, hand-written manifesto explaining why prostitution should be legal (fine by me) but not taxed (eh?) and why marriage is actually the sick, evil institution that should be abolished, not prostitution (I'm sorry no woman wanted you, Chet, but I happen to like marriage).

As Allen noted, above: Brown is a devoted Libertarian who has unsuccessfully run for Canada's Parliament as a Libertarian candidate. His book is full of the usual property rights first, foremost and always arguments, and fooey on the gubmint, why does the gubmint have to interfere with my bidness, screw you gubmint, let the Free Market decide these things, yay Free Market.

Yet PAYING FOR IT was produced courtesy of The Canadian Council for the Arts, which supported Brown through federal grants, as it has Brown's past comics. Heh. Mother Jones magazine asked Brown about this in an interview:

MJ: Paying For It was sponsored by the Canada Council for the Arts. You don't have an issue taking a grant from the government?

CB: Mmmm, no. To me, those are two different things. I'm against government giving money to artists, but I'm not against artists taking money.

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#602175 - 06/11/13 02:37 PM Re: The books I'm reading thread... [Re: Lawson]
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I love when people are fortunate enough to have one big exception in their political beliefs that happens to allow them to profit personally. It's such a crazy coincidence!
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#602176 - 06/11/13 02:52 PM Re: The books I'm reading thread... [Re: Ceci n'est pas une chaussette]
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I've known a decent number of Libertarians.

Most of them sucked hard on the government teat one way or the other. Either they were making a career of military service, or they worked for a defense contractor, or they collected federal disability, Medicaid, Medicare, food stamps or some other public assistance, or they pocketed farming subsidies, or they accepted Medicaid and Medicare patients, or they worked for public schools or universities, or, as is the case with Brown, they simply let the government subsidize their free market rants.

In a truly free market, one without Ayn Rand's "takers," the 53-year-old Chester Brown would have to wash dishes for a living, because there clearly is not adequate customer demand for his comic books to pay him a living wage.

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#602177 - 06/11/13 03:23 PM Re: The books I'm reading thread... [Re: Lawson]
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I've met this guy. Not him specifically, but a thousand like him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTwpBLzxe4U
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#602178 - 06/11/13 03:23 PM Re: The books I'm reading thread... [Re: Lawson]
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ON THE ROPES

Story by James Vance
Art by Dan E. Burr
Published by W. W. Norton & Company

Wow!

Once in a while, a sophisticated graphic novel comes along to show us the depth of storytelling you can achieve in this medium if you're skilled enough. MAUS was one example; STUCK RUBBER BABY was another.

ON THE ROPES isn't quite on that level, but it's a really good one.

Set in 1937 at the height of the Great Depression, young and socialist Fred Bloch is traveling around Illinois with a Works Progress Administration circus. Fred is apprenticed to the show's star attraction, a drunken and haunted escape artist named Gordon Corey.

In part through flashbacks, we slowly learn about the hard roads that Fred and Gordon have traveled until now and the secrets they've kept. Their revelations come against a backdrop of labor unrest, poverty and violence.

Evidently, this is a sequel to an earlier graphic novel from 20 years ago by the same creators called KINGS IN DISGUISE. I've not heard of that book, which tells about Fred's earlier life, but I'll be looking for it.

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#602179 - 06/11/13 03:26 PM Re: The books I'm reading thread... [Re: Ceci n'est pas une chaussette]
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Originally Posted By: Ceci n'est pas une chaussette
Yeah, I know what you mean. I've met this guy. Not him specifically, but a thousand like him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTwpBLzxe4U


"Keep Government Out Of My Medicare!"

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#602186 - 06/17/13 06:26 PM Re: The books I'm reading thread... [Re: Lawson]
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Originally Posted By: Lawson
ON THE ROPES

Story by James Vance
Art by Dan E. Burr
Published by W. W. Norton & Company

[snip]

Evidently, this is a sequel to an earlier graphic novel from 20 years ago by the same creators called KINGS IN DISGUISE. I've not heard of that book, which tells about Fred's earlier life, but I'll be looking for it.


Yes, KINGS IN DISGUISE was a great series! I recommend it. Now I'll have to look for ON THE ROPES!

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#602196 - 06/20/13 02:41 AM Re: The books I'm reading thread... [Re: Peter Urkowitz]
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Future Foudnation by Fraction and Allred



I tried out iZombie for a few issues, and while the art and character design was fantastic I didn't care for the characters or the story.

Future Foundation or FF is much better. My first issue was #3 I think and I didn't feel lost, and was immediately interested in what was going on. And it was a brief read like most pamphlets. It feels like reading a comic book.

Anyway that's it.
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