Okay, Paul, I'll do the right thing. I'll go further into providing a description of just what you actually are and the gist of it is this; you're a sociopath. Everything you do and everyone that you relate to is colored by that particular characteralogical trait.

It isn't just a matter of getting my "VERY predictable (and laughable) "rebuttal" to (your) bankruptcy out of the way", it's a matter of calling you on your dishonesty about how you leapt into the circumstances that you fell into.

You weren't careful about how you got money, what you did with it or who was hurt by your carelessness. You're still not taking responsibility for it, choosing instead to blame your relatives or the credit card companies while pretending that your irresponsibility was some sort of misguided nobility. Bullshit, Paul. You're a deadbeat that doesn't take responsibility even when the courts call you to task. Since you won't take responsibility for your failings and malfeasance, there's almost no probability that you'll ever actually learn or grow from your mistakes.

You're amusing in a "thank goodness I don't actually have to deal with this idiot in my off line life" kind of way, but despite the fact that there's the same type of interest in watching you as there is in watching the depredations of a poorly intended clown who you know is going to crash and burn, you really aren't intrinsically very interesting beyond your missteps. The interest that is there is just a matter of degrees. You might want to misread the statements that I make out of context, but the fact of the matter is that they're not inconsistent. You are unusual, Paul, when compared to folks whose minds work in healthy ways, and you're interesting as an example of a person who predictably falls into wayward patterns, but you're not nearly as interesting as you'd hope others might believe. Hopefully that's a bit clearer for you.


Obviously there's a mildly interesting and squalid story in how you've formed all of your relationships, but that's just the nature of sociopathy. You're not capable of sustaining healthy relationships for extended periods of time and the mildly interesting part of your story is in seeing how many ways that you can find to sabotage yourself.

I was willing to let it go after some well meaning folks let it be known that they felt some discomfort on your behalf, but it's clear that you never actually wanted to cede that spotlight. All of your postings come down to a desperate craving for negative attention (most likely due to the probability that you're incapable of garnering positive attention). Other folks might wonder about you and try to read some sort of good intentions gone awry in what you say, but at least you and I both know the truth about who you are.

We both know that you're a loser that hasn't actually been able to achieve any of his life goals, and has never quite been able to get where he's tried to go. It's just that I'm more willing than you are to nakedly describe you.

There you go; I've done the right thing.

As much as I enjoy witnessing the roasting of Paul (well, he magnified the minor irritant that is Byrne's mouth and made me despise Captain As-Hat even more) ... I cannot now sleep until I find out:

Did Pauly receive his wife via mail-order ?????

Stop trying to sanctimoniously paint yourself as some good guy. Has anyone requested a halt to Paul abuse, that would be unthinkable. But just look at yourself man, you're becoming as bad as him. Obsessively ranting on and on, only posting in Byrne threads.

Pick on him all you want, he deserves it.

All I or anyone else was saying was, leave his wife out of it, and/or stop claiming to know some dirt about how Paul and his wife met, while playing some ridiculous coy game about why you're not spilling it.

Concerning Paul's wife, I'm satisfied with the answer "who gives a shit?" Yes, I'd say that wraps up the matter quite nicely. Look, life hasn't changed one bit.

Whatever you do, don't ask IvanJim directly. That doesn't seem to work for some reason.

And that would suit me just fine, too! However, that doesn't seem to be the case does it?

This thread has been hijacked (again) & blame whoever you want for it, but the bottom line is that the ONLY reason to read & get involved in this thread now is to see where it goes, so as much as you protest, geedis, something keeps drawing you back here & whether or not it's to learn something or just enjoy the car wreck that it has become is irrelevant.

You give a "shit". :p

Ah yes, I remember now. It's worth reading anything that irritates you.

By all means continue Ivan. I want to see Paul have a stroke.

Actually, Joe, I hadn't posted in this thread for a week. I let it drop, as you and Lawson requested, until Paul came raging back and demanded a response.

I realize that your feelings were hurt by me when I privately criticized you for something you posted, but you do seem to be losing perspective here. Get a grip, fella, take a breath and look at your own anger. I might be wrong but I think that you're generally sharper than this. As a show of good faith I'm even going to ignore your typing errors because I know that it upsets you and I wouldn't want to do that.

He does deserve it, doesn't he, and a lot of why he deserves it is because of how he dishonestly relates to other people.If you weren't trying to read between the lines you'd realize that I've never said anything about Paul's wife, only about how Paul relates to people including his wife. It's about how Paul inter-relates with others in the real world and how he forms bonds.

As you might recall through the fog of your misinterpretations I never said I'd tell a story about how Paul met his wife, in fact I said I wouldn't.

Don't go getting all Sonderstedy about this.

Or just ask Paul directly if you want an answer to that question. There's no way to tell if he'd be telling the truth but at least you'd have a denial or an admission to play with. He seems to have some odd investment in keeping the topic alive so I doubt that he'd ever tell the tale, but if he did I'm sure that he'd be just as honest in his story-telling as he was when he described the circumstances of his bankruptcy.

Personally I don't care whether or not he tells the story of how he met his wife, as I'd tend to disbelieve anything he wrote. I just find it amusing (only mildly so) to see Paul try to make the circumstances of his life somehow be a reflection on anyone except for himself.