Originally posted by Alex A Buchet:
IvanJim, I'm disappointed that you take the low road of silly insults in dealing with my criticism of you.
About Paul's wife: either you should have kept entirely silent on the matter, or revealed what you know. As it is, you allow all kinds of sleazy scenarios to run rampant in the reader's imagination-- and these scenarios can tend to besmirch Paul's wife.
That's not right, man, and you know it.
As for the rest...Paul's current job is irrelevant; and if he has reneged on any debt to credit-card companies, more power to him! And "reneging" does not fairly describe the voiding of debts through bankruptcy.
You must do as you see fit, of course, but it strikes me that the honorable and ethical thing to do is to back off on these matters.
I'm sorry that you're disappointed, but I do think that your tone warranted the insult. It's a potential consequence of taking the tone of a moralist when you haven't yet earned the stature (certainly not in my eyes) to be a moral arbiter.
Since you continue to take the outraged tone of a moralist I'll try to take you a little more seriously and respond to some of your moral points;
"if he has reneged on any debt to credit-card companies, more power to him! And "reneging" does not fairly describe the voiding of debts through bankruptcy."
Not paying debts you've accrued by reckless spending (which Paul has admitted to) is indeed reneging. Be it by bankruptcy or simple deadbeatery, it's taking goods and services from others after agreeing to pay for them and then not doing so.
That you think it's a positive thing to renege on credit card debt shows either a lack of morality or a lack of understanding of how the debts eventually get paid. They get paid by other consumers who haven't reneged on their debts in the form of surcharges and higher interest payments. The only exception to this is when the reneged debt is to a vendor who can't afford to pass it on to other customers. That vendor has provided a service to the deadbeat and has suffered for providing it.
"As it is, you allow all kinds of sleazy scenarios to run rampant in the reader's imagination-- and these scenarios can tend to besmirch Paul's wife."
Regardless of what sleazy scenarios run through your mind, that's the workings of your mind and not that of anyone relating information that causes your mind to run on a tangent. The item in question refers to how Paul relates and related to others, not how others related to Paul. If you carry the analogy too far you'd have to say that Paul shouldn't even mention that he has a wife because
you might assume that anyone who married Paul might have something wrong with them. Paul has every right to mention that he has a wife no matter what sleazy scenario might run through your brain because he does so.
"You must do as you see fit, of course, but it strikes me that the honorable and ethical thing to do is to back off on these matters."
Obviously it does strikes me differently. Paul has been anything but honorable and ethical on these boards but he consistently claims that one can't know anything about him from reading these boards. Therefore I feel it's appropriate, since he continues to whine frequently about how it's inappropriate to judge him from the time he spends on these boards, to request that he fill in the alleged blanks that he feels are so much more relevant in making a judgement about his character in order to either support or upend his denials.
So yes, I shall do as I see fit.