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#8894 - 04/17/08 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by IvanJim: Her dishonest dissembling, combined with her making up verifiably false stories about her experiences in a combat zone have caused me to believe that she's at the very least no better than him.
I still wish that Gore or Edwards was the presumptive nominee, but at this point I feel more supportive of Obama than of someone so clearly dishonest and so sloppy about it. It's nice to see you hold politicians to a higher standard than you do yourself.
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#8895 - 04/17/08 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Peter Urkowitz: You make a convincing case for your point of view about Hillary, but my point was, if you need to make the case and basically explain the joke, then the joke's not funny. Would you agree with that? I'd probably say, instead, that your sense of humor wasn't the same as mine. Humor is subjective and different things strike different groups of people as funny. Wouldn't you agree? In some cases though, if someone just can't understand the joke (Hi SlowJoe), I'd say instead that I just didn't feel like gearing the joke to the lowest common denominator. If those folks sense of humor is what I wanted to reach, I'd just mention body parts (That always seems to work for kindergarteners and SlowJoe types).
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#8896 - 04/17/08 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by IvanJim: I understand that you don't grasp the difference between describing you as Slow and saying that you're, say, a rotted and infected tooth.
I also understand that you use cuss words and sexual references because you're not capable of actually making an effective argument.
It's okay, SlowJoe. When you've a lost a battle of wits I can see why you want to throw rocks (metaphorically, that is) instead of admitting that you can no longer effectively defend yourself with words. Lots of immature and dysfunctional people act this way, and it's nice that you can work yourself up to that level. It's a little better then your usual whining. A rotted and infected tooth? No need to bring your family into this. It's OK Ivy, I understand that you don't grasp the difference between me describing you as opportunistic and disingenuous dick and you making pet names for people. Squeeky, Slow Joe, etc,... Which is a bit creepy, by the way. And seriously, you really have to start coming up with some new material, you're getting to be tired and predictable.
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#8897 - 04/17/08 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by Joe Lee: Originally posted by IvanJim: Her dishonest dissembling, combined with her making up verifiably false stories about her experiences in a combat zone have caused me to believe that she's at the very least no better than him.
I still wish that Gore or Edwards was the presumptive nominee, but at this point I feel more supportive of Obama than of someone so clearly dishonest and so sloppy about it. It's nice to see you hold politicians to a higher standard than you do yourself. Regardless of your assessment of my standards and whether or not I've reached them (and let's face it, there's no point in judging one's self through the eyes of a man who is considerably confused by both morality and context) I believe that the greater the responsibility the higher the standard one should be held to. But don't worry SlowJoe, I recognize your capabilities and know that you can't possibly attain any position of responsibility where there'd be any standard to maintain. You're off that particular hook. Considering how you comport yourself on this board, that's probably a very good thing.
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#8898 - 04/17/08 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by IvanJim: I might be overestimating you, but you're the one who'll be able to say what you know. I know how to answer a simple direct question. You don't seem to have a knack for that. I think you're probably talking to those imaginary people you think agree with you and support your views. Maybe just in case one of them happens to show up here.
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#8899 - 04/17/08 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by IvanJim: Regardless of your assessment of my standards and whether or not I've reached them (and let's face it, there's no point in judging one's self through the eyes of a man who is considerably confused by both morality and context) I believe that the greater the responsibility the higher the standard one should be held to. Gosh things change fast, it wasn't that long ago when you were asking me on a date... Originally posted by IvanJim: For goodness sake, Joe, don't take it so hard. Maybe we should go grab a beer or a hot chocolate and I'll try and show you how to read between the lines so that you might be able to grasp when someone actually likes you even when they think you're being a bit foolish. Let me know if you're coming to LA anytime soon.--- Originally posted by IvanJim: But don't worry SlowJoe, I recognize your capabilities and know that you can't possibly attain any position of responsibility where there'd be any standard to maintain. You're off that particular hook. Considering how you comport yourself on this board, that's probably a very good thing. Now think that through Ivy. The only way that statement could have any effect whatsoever would be if I never held "any position(s) of responsibility." You'll have to be less specific with these sorts of things, or you risk missing the mark entirely. Go ahead give it another try. And seriously, if you want to talk about comporting? I hope you don't act like this in the real world. You wouldn't have any teeth left, even the "rotted and infected kind," you're so fond of.
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#8900 - 04/17/08 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by geedis: I know how to answer a simple direct question. You don't seem to have a knack for that. He doesn't seem to have the knack for a lot of things. Have you noticed the repetitive nature to most of his responses? He's got a handful of clichés that he uses reflexively, even if they contradict his earlier statements, and that's it. No creativity. Oh, and the name calling, (and he says he doesn't gear his 'jokes' to the lowest common denominator). Seriously, no creativity. Maybe this is where his feelings of inadequacy stem from. He must have inadequacy issues, what with the constant need to convince himself he's the smartest guy in the room.
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#8901 - 04/18/08 01:37 AM
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Originally posted by geedis: Originally posted by IvanJim: I might be overestimating you, but you're the one who'll be able to say what you know. I know how to answer a simple direct question. You don't seem to have a knack for that.
I think you're probably talking to those imaginary people you think agree with you and support your views. Maybe just in case one of them happens to show up here. Actually, Geedis, you haven't shown a propensity for being able to straight forwardly answer a straight question. Nor for asking one. Frankly, there's been nothing straight forward or honest about any of the ways that you've posted, including your pretense that you actually understand the mechanics of honest communication. You try to play the gadfly but succeed only at making a noise (again, metaphorically) that doesn't communicate. I'm talking to whoever wants to read what I've written. You seem to be talking only to yourself, and even then you wind up in a miscommunication.
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#8902 - 04/18/08 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by Joe Lee: Originally posted by geedis: I know how to answer a simple direct question. You don't seem to have a knack for that. He doesn't seem to have the knack for a lot of things. Have you noticed the repetitive nature to most of his responses? He's got a handful of clichés that he uses reflexively, even if they contradict his earlier statements, and that's it. No creativity. Oh, and the name calling, (and he says he doesn't gear his 'jokes' to the lowest common denominator).
Seriously, no creativity. Maybe this is where his feelings of inadequacy stem from. He must have inadequacy issues, what with the constant need to convince himself he's the smartest guy in the room. Sorry, SlowJoe, but your still the same slow noncomprehending clod, so you wind up getting the same response when you say the same things. Do you want me to pretend that your not a dunce? That you've actually said something clearly or communicated something with substance? I just don't feel like writing science fiction. As long as you keep posting words with no depth, as long as you show that you don't understand context, and as long as you show yourself trying to be clever but proving yourself an uninspired and unintelligent man I'll choose to keep pointing out that you're living up to your capacity and incapable of doing anything more. So yes, as long as you keep repeating yourself and showing a talent for nothing other than tripping yourself up, you won't see what you think you want to see in my posts. You'll need to find some validity for yourself somewhere other than in my posts; I'll never be able to help you with something that can't come to pass. You aren't valid.
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#8903 - 04/18/08 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by Joe Lee: Originally posted by IvanJim: Regardless of your assessment of my standards and whether or not I've reached them (and let's face it, there's no point in judging one's self through the eyes of a man who is considerably confused by both morality and context) I believe that the greater the responsibility the higher the standard one should be held to. Gosh things change fast, it wasn't that long ago when you were asking me on a date...
Originally posted by IvanJim: For goodness sake, Joe, don't take it so hard. Maybe we should go grab a beer or a hot chocolate and I'll try and show you how to read between the lines so that you might be able to grasp when someone actually likes you even when they think you're being a bit foolish. Let me know if you're coming to LA anytime soon. [/quote] Gosh, SlowJoe, you've proven yet again your vast inability to read between the lines. Why am I not surprised? You haven't accurately picked up on the meaning of what's been written for quite awhile, have you? (so you don't have to guess, the answer is "no") --- Originally posted by IvanJim: But don't worry SlowJoe, I recognize your capabilities and know that you can't possibly attain any position of responsibility where there'd be any standard to maintain. You're off that particular hook. Considering how you comport yourself on this board, that's probably a very good thing. Now think that through Ivy.
The only way that statement could have any effect whatsoever would be if I never held "any position(s) of responsibility." You'll have to be less specific with these sorts of things, or you risk missing the mark entirely.
Go ahead give it another try.
And seriously, if you want to talk about comporting? I hope you don't act like this in the real world. You wouldn't have any teeth left, even the "rotted and infected kind," you're so fond of. Are you pretending to threaten me? Certainly you aren't looking out for my welfare, so I'd say that you're looking to do so with plausible deniability. It's kind of cowardly, but I'd expect no less or more from you. ...and why do I have the feeling that the only type of threats that you ever make are implied and on-line? Is it because you comport yourself like a minnow who desperately hopes that others see him as a Puffer fish, not knowing that the Puffer fish he so admires and wants to be is hollow? Probably so, SlowJoe, probably so.
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